Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Fun with the "Atheist Killa:" The Golden Question

For those of you not in the know, Chad Elliott, aka Fivethirty, aka "The Atheist Killa," is a self-styled religious apologist. You can find links to his many videos all over YouTube, but I warn you, they are not for the intelligent. If you go to his Facebook page, Creationism and the Origin of Life, you will notice two things pretty quickly; his page actually has very little to do with creationism or the origin of life, and that he claims victory over 29,000 atheists when it comes to debate. A quick browsing of the page will show that what he and his admins dub as "victories" are a combination of the number of people they ban in conjunction with the number of views a post gets.

That is right... if a post gets 700 views in a day, that is 700 victories in the minds of these hyper-dense people. Why? Well, if these 700 people who saw the post could refute the awesome and perfect and most bad-ass arguments that COL has produced, they would have commented or challenged the "AK" to a live debate (live debates which have numerous rules that favor Chad, and allows for him to cite a rules violation on a whim and claim victory) and done so. Thus, those 700 views are all a sign of the might and awe and invulnerable nature of "The Elliott Argument," of course!

It is at this time that I feel I should state that I have neither enough faces nor palms to facepalm to the appropriate level that this man and his crew deserve.

With that introduction out of the way, I now present the fun I just had on the COL page. Naturally, rather than refute my second response, or really even address what was said in my first message, I was banned and the page claimed victory. Keep in mind, like with the live debates, the rules for posting on the page are deeply stacked in favor of "AK" and his admins, so much so that links are not even allowed, as linking to information outside of Mr. Elliott's blackhole of illogical arguments might make him learn something.

To post and not be instantly banned, you must answer the "Golden Question," so, I began with this post:


I would like to point out that I don't actually adhere to the option I presented, I was simply presenting a third possibility, however improbable.

This was his response:



The following screen capture presents his last message before my response, as well as my response.


I point out a few things, like the absurdity of quoting something from a fiction novel to support his position, the fact that space and time are not one and the same, as he posits, that one of his own quotes supported my position, and perhaps most importantly is that the idea of Space being eternal but Time being a self-creating event is entirely different from his Spacetime Eternal position. Despite this, this is how the page responded:


That is correct, my friends; rather than actually respond to my post with any sort of rebuttal, I was banned from the page and they claimed victory. I realize that I may not have presented the best of all possible options to present as a third way, however, it still shows the level of intellectual dishonesty of the page "Creationism and the Origin of Life," Chad "the Atheist Killa" Elliott, and his admin crew.

And for some real fun in watching the intellectual fraud that is "the Atheist Killa" as he debates someone better equipped than I was, I present to you this;
Trollin' the Holies: Chad Elliott, the “Atheist Killa”

Enjoy.

1 comment:

  1. I went through most of Chad's initial post to you; in the first paragraph, about 1/3 of it is lifted directly, word-for-word from the Wikipedia page on Space-time - he didn't even bother to re-write it :/

    I didn’t bother with the rest, but judging by what I know of his usual writing style (and displayed vocabulary) large sections of it sound like someone else’s material; probably several someone elses.

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